I work as an executive (actually I work for the EVP and CEO directly. Anyway, I am "out" and have been since I started. My bosses are very old school and one is in his 60's the other in his 50's (I am in my late 30's). They are both exceptional leaders and I totally respect their work and accomplishments. One thing I noticed about working for them is that once they new I was a dyke there was like this total level of "stuff" that didn't get in the way. I have found that men either in the workplace or elsewhere once they accept the fact they don’t have a chance they kind of let their guard down a bit. I get to see more of the real them because that whole "impressing" the opposite sex thing doesn't get in the way. This is the case with my current two bosses and one of the reasons I think they like me so much. They feel much more relaxed and open to telling off color jokes and that sort of thing that I know they would NEVER say around a hetro woman. I can tell they are still not as open as might be with a guy, but for the most part we get along well. I also noticed that compared to other women in the company, they are not as afraid to really let me have it if they are angry and they give me slack when I need to blow some steam also.
In my last company I was a VP and all my supervisors (including the CEO) were women. Although we all became good friends, I knew a few of them were uncomfortable with the whole lesbian thing and that sometimes did get in the way of business.
I have found it interesting in that I would expect that working with all men would be tougher than it was with all women, but to be honest, the men are much easier for the most part.
Anyone else ever been in this situation?
In my last company I was a VP and all my supervisors (including the CEO) were women. Although we all became good friends, I knew a few of them were uncomfortable with the whole lesbian thing and that sometimes did get in the way of business.
I have found it interesting in that I would expect that working with all men would be tougher than it was with all women, but to be honest, the men are much easier for the most part.
Anyone else ever been in this situation?
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Re: At the office question...
Tue, April 1, 2008 - 6:51 PMFor me, it's better to have a balance of both men and women but if I had to choose, I would pick an office full of men over an office full of women any day of the week and twice on Sunday. In my experience, women tend to be more emotional and sensitive than men (not saying that men aren't, just less) and therefore women tend to be more catty and gossipy and whiny and reactive than men (not saying that men aren't, just less). When you don't have any men around to balance things, I've found that the bitchiness spirals out of control and it's very unattractive. But I think it will also depend a lot on the overall morale and professionalism of the office.
As far as the dyke thing, I've also found that straight men have an easier time dealing with it than straight women. And I'm sure a gay man would find the reverse is true. But I have a problem with the whole straight/gay thing just because I don't believe anybody, in their heart of hearts, is completely straight or gay.
Just my two cents...
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Re: At the office question...
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:37 AMI just started working an office job for the first time in my life, and interestingly am having a similar experience.
Also I am in the position of being transgendered (I consider my self a genderqueer Gyrl, lipstick butch, ish... labelfuck is nice), but I'm percieved in the feminine & live with my girlfriend and am out as dyke at the office... my bossboss is a really cool womin, but everyone else in the office is a guy, and only one with a feel for queer culture. But I agree, the guys, once they percieved me as not a "prospect", loosened up alot, & to some degree it's borderline offensive, like talking about how much they want to get blow jobs at the club and special strategies for dating without having to invest any money in their dates... kinda sheisty, but not my deal and if they're comfortable talking and feel good as a result I'm all about being a supportive presence.
It's a cool crew and sexist and sex driven as most of them are, I like them, and they're willing to be openminded to all sorts of different lifestyles.
I think it has everything to do with the fact that I have a girlfriend and can talk about what beauty & sexiness is in regard to women. And I can call their shit when they're being crass & they can take it.
I feel like if it was an office full of women I'd be way stressed and not be able to take having a desk job doing what I'm doing.
Yay for relating!